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Cherrylula
05-23-2005, 11:31 AM
Tillman's Parents Are Critical Of Army
Family Questions Reversal On Cause of Ranger's Death

By Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, May 23, 2005; Page A01

Former NFL player Pat Tillman's family is lashing out against the Army, saying that the military's investigations into Tillman's friendly-fire death in Afghanistan last year were a sham and that Army efforts to cover up the truth have made it harder for them to deal with their loss.

More than a year after their son was shot several times by his fellow Army Rangers on a craggy hillside near the Pakistani border, Tillman's mother and father said in interviews that they believe the military and the government created a heroic tale about how their son died to foster a patriotic response across the country. They say the Army's "lies" about what happened have made them suspicious, and that they are certain they will never get the full story.

"Pat had high ideals about the country; that's why he did what he did," Mary Tillman said in her first lengthy interview since her son's death. "The military let him down. The administration let him down. It was a sign of disrespect. The fact that he was the ultimate team player and he watched his own men kill him is absolutely heartbreaking and tragic. The fact that they lied about it afterward is disgusting."

Tillman, a popular player for the Arizona Cardinals, gave up stardom in the National Football League after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to join the Army Rangers with his brother. After a tour in Iraq, their unit was sent to Afghanistan in spring 2004, where they were to hunt for the Taliban and Osama bin Laden. Shortly after arriving in the mountains to fight, Tillman was killed in a barrage of gunfire from his own men, mistaken for the enemy as he got into position to defend them.

Immediately, the Army kept the soldiers on the ground quiet and told Tillman's family and the public that he was killed by enemy fire while storming a hill, barking orders to his fellow Rangers. After a public memorial service, at which Tillman received the Silver Star, the Army told Tillman's family what had really happened, that he had been killed by his own men.

read more: link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/22/AR2005052200865.html)

I forgot the original story about all this, but now they are using the term "fratricide" as in his own men shot and killed him, not by accident? Pretty shitty.

Cherrylula
05-23-2005, 11:34 AM
more from the article cause I am still reading it too:

Patrick Tillman Sr. believes he will never get the truth, and he says he is resigned to that now. But he wants everyone in the chain of command, from Tillman's direct supervisors to the one-star general who conducted the latest investigation, to face discipline for "dishonorable acts." He also said the soldiers who killed his son have not been adequately punished.

"Maybe lying's not a big deal anymore," he said. "Pat's dead, and this isn't going to bring him back. But these guys should have been held up to scrutiny, right up the chain of command, and no one has."

That their son was famous opened up the situation to problems, the Tillmans say, in part because of the devastating public relations loss his death represented for the military. Mary Tillman says the government used her son for weeks after his death, perpetuating an untrue story to capitalize on his altruism -- just as the Abu Ghraib prison scandal was erupting publicly. She said she was particularly offended when President Bush offered a taped memorial message to Tillman at a Cardinals football game shortly before the presidential election last fall. She again felt as though her son was being used, something he never would have wanted.

dayummmm

Fletch XXX
05-23-2005, 11:41 AM
they did this in vietnam, they did it in the first gulf war, and theyve been doing it forever and since and will continue to.

most american heroes really arent "heroes" at all. the military makes them up to be, to form morale and build up confidence in the field.

Fletch XXX
05-23-2005, 11:42 AM
i mean come on, who was that hero girl who got shot and never even fired a bullet?

:haha

what a hero

Cherrylula
05-23-2005, 11:43 AM
Sounds like he was an asshole and his men just dealt with it. :haha

Se_Top_Spots
05-23-2005, 05:49 PM
bastards.....

skunx
05-23-2005, 05:55 PM
the US government lies about everything

Nismo
05-23-2005, 06:54 PM
the US government lies about everything
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